"It’s not fair. Parents can’t spank their children anymore without going to jail for it."
- parents who spank and have never been in jail for it, and still can’t see the flaw in their logic
I just need that entire comment on my blog:
“It’s just a bullshit PR campaign, nothing more. Telling kids to put up with bullying until they leave school is not constructive advice. It’s cruel. School boards, school administrators, teachers, etc., need to have zero tolerance policy for bullying. It’s not uncommon for teachers to bully unpopular kids themselves. That’s where the changes need to be made. But that requires action, and it requires standing up to conservatives who fight anti-bullying campaigns tooth and nail (often claiming that bullying gay people is a christian right). The reason “It Gets Better” caught on with politicians and celebrities is because it’s great PR and it requires absolutely NOTHING from them in the way of real action.
It’s cruelty to tell a kid to tolerate bullying. And to whom is this campaign even directed? The fat gay kids that Savage makes fun of himself? It’s a campaign aimed at good looking white boys with great bodies and upper middle class families. Yes, THEY will do better once they start hitting the gay bars. But for most average looking kids from working class families, they will find a gay community that’s often very much like High School, with cliques and teasing and rejection. Gay kids need to get support from society, and the kids that need that most are the kids that Savage himself would mock and demonize; kids of color, working class and poor kids, fat kids, kids with acne, and kids who are otherwise marginalized in society AND in our community.
Even when you look at the videos on YouTube, you see politicians who’ve come out against marriage equality, sports teams that would never accept a gay person in their ranks, and celebrities who just want some good press. The gay kids who participate are often great looking white boys, who you know will be accepted in the gay community, and are already leading charmed lives. It’s a campaign for the people Savage likes…sexy white male teenagers with athletic bodies who will be greeted with open arms.
I’ll take the campaign seriously when Savage speaks out on behalf of marginalized gay kids, and criticizes the gay community for iots racism and other prejudices. But he’s the biggest bigot and bully of the bunch, and that’s been proven from his many years as a “columnist.” I often couldn’t believe how conservative, prejudiced, and intolerant he was in those columns.”
Also trans people.
Dan Savage doesn’t care about the T, and he’s been actively, grossly cissexist on many distinct occasions.
Not to mention asexuals, women, lower-class people, etc.
Let’s face it kids, Dan Savage is the most hypocritical douchebag in the queer rights movement.
But yes I agree with everything that has been posted above.
don’t forget that he thinks bisexuals in general need to “make up their mind” and that male bisexuals are essentially unicorns
I once had an extended argument over when he was glitter-bombed because he’s a huge hypocritical transphobe. You can’t claim to be a trans* ally and then hurl transphobic slurs at your enemies. There’s no complicit-by-ignorance-and-stupidity argument to be made there - that’s just straight up transphobia. He is not an ‘activist.’ He is making a great living by essentially capitalizing on the intersection of his hegemonic identities and a burgeoning pinkwashed economy.
liking all the commentary here, and yeah that’s always bugged me about the “it gets better” campaign; it should be made better for kids NOW, not just waiting for them to get older and for their life to stop sucking
savage doesnt give a shit about #rape victims either oohh tss….
I think we all agree that dan savage is a stinky, puckered asshole.
"It gets better" is ageist, because it’s based on the belief that if people go through hell and seriously consider suicide when they’re young but their life is better when they’re adults, then there’s no problem. And that’s assuming that it actually does get better, which it often doesn’t, especially for LGBT+ people who are also oppressed in other ways.
The age of consent varies by state in the US, so I’m not sure how you came to the conclusion that America has a higher age of consent.
Now I can’t respond with the full context of that quote because I’m not the mod who wrote it, but I can explain to you my position on the age of consent. The AoC to me is a position of moral sketchiness. Of course it has its fair share of flaws (such as some cases where adults wield it on personal whim against young people to criminalize their sexual activities) and of course I’m against it being used in that way and the law shouldn’t be structured in a way that allows for that to happen, and it’s certainly not the ideal situation, either (the ideal situation would be a society where young people can’t be legally and socially coerced into doing what adults want them to do).
But the thing about the AoC and the reason that I consider it of lower tier on the scale of issues young people face is because the AoC doesn’t exist to punish young people, it exists to punish adults. If an adult has sex with a young person below the age of consent, it is not the young person who gets arrested (sure they might be forced to go to some therapy sessions or something which is stupid in its own right but not as much of an issue), it is the adult who gets arrested. So what makes AoC different from other youth rights issues is that it exists to protect young people from adults, unlike most other issues such as the voting age, drinking age, curfews, etc. which claim to exist under the guise of “protecting” young people from themselves or “protecting” adults from young people.
So is the AoC perfect? No, not really. But does it serve a purpose in a society which makes young people extremely vulnerable to being victimized by adults? I say yes. So to claim that it’s like taking condoms and sex education away is not a rational comparison. In conclusion, I think lowering the AoC would do more to benefit adults than it would to benefit young people. Perhaps when most other power structures against young people start being dismantled, maybe then we can take another look at the AoC. But to be honest I see it as being one of the last issues to go.
(On a side note, I find it strange that we almost always end up with at least a few messages in our inbox whenever any mod on here mentions the AoC. But why is that the issue that gets people rustled up? Where are all these people when we’re here talking about other issues that young people face? It just comes off as weird to me that THAT’S the issue which seems to be so many people’s priority.)