Adult Privilege is…

bythelion:

Not being teenagers whining about adult privilege, because that’s all that the subject of “adult privilege” is.
Whiny teenagers.

Why is your post tagged “unpopular opinion”? That’s one of the most popular beliefs in existence.

feministrocker:

TW: suicide

adultprivilege:

summertimelovegirl:

boredomandstuff:

southparksexcanons:

alright, tumblr, i have a juicy new story for you.

heres the story: in lake central high school, in a town very near to mine, former student Mike Doss’s father recently passed away. in order to sustain his family he had to quit school and get a job. he only quit school THIS PAST FEBRUARY.

very recently, Doss killed himself. the students of lake central high school repeatedly asked the staff to have a moment of silence on the morning announcements and were told no every time. so they arranged this VERY PEACEFUL sit-in of about 200 students, shown in the video above, to demand a moment of silence. (another student also committed suicide after this sit in, but there is uncertainty over whether there is a connection between the two deaths.)

the video fluctuates in volume and is often hard to hear, so you may want to turn it up.

it opens with many students yelling for silence so the standing female student can request a moment of silence. not only does the principal shoot her down, he doesnt even acknowledge her, telling her “youre not in charge here, i am” and asking the students coldly to take out their school ids. this causes a little bit of a commotion, but when the principal asks for their attention, they give it.

he then begins to express his “disappointment”, to which another student responds, “yeah, were disappointed in you too”. there is NO VIOLENCE AND NO DISRUPTION from this student. the rest of the students cheer for him, but the principal immediately asks police, who are standing nearby, to ARREST THE STUDENT. the other students are very passive and nonviolent, even moving out of the way of the policemen.

the principal then asks for their attention again - WHICH THEY GIVE - and begins to, and quite condescendingly i might add, tell the students that he thinks theyre here because they think its a JOKE! of course, the students are rightly pissed off about this. one girl even yells, “you would do it for anyone else!”

the video ends with a shot of the policemen DRAGGING the young male student away, and the rest of the sit-in cheering for him for standing his ground.

this article in the northwest indiana times gives a little bit more information about the situation, and also caps a note the principal sent to parents about the suicide/sit-in and how the students “did not handle it properly”. the note reads:

"While I refer to what took place Wednesday as a sit-in, it was an incident that involved many mixed emotions, including my own. There is no easy solution when 200 kids decide to create a sit-in within the middle of the school in order to demonstrate a point of view, while making demands. Options could range from yell (and yell louder), make threats, have police arrest them all, suspend them all … etc., all this while trying to reason with emotional teenagers who have defined a personal purpose, but who also need to get back to class.”

get back to class? GET BACK TO CLASS??? these kids are upset and emotional and you want them to GET BACK TO CLASS?????

and what about the option of, i dont know, actually talking to the human beings in front of you, who are hurt and upset and right in their cause? this man has a bachelors degree from wabash college in english, language arts, and teacher education, a masters degree from indiana university in educational leadership and administration, and has been the dean of students at munster high school and the assistant principal/athletic director at lake central high school before becoming the principal. yet, with all this education, he refuses to acknowledge the situation, even going on to call the sit-in a DISRUPTION!

the note continues,

"We have always practiced a different protocol of acknowledgment for a suicide death, which involves minimal publicity in order to not glorify the suicide.

the reason the school would not give this poor kid an announcement and moment of silence is because THEY DONT WANT TO GLORIFY SUICIDE. if a student dies in a car crash and they make an announcement, that doesnt glorify car crashes, and if a student is murdered and they make an announcement, that doesnt glorify murder. but apparently everyone in the public school system has their head shoved too far up their ass to realize that KIDS DO NOT KILL THEMSELVES FOR THE ATTENTION.

and after all this, the principal has the AUDACITY to say that, even after all these students have been through, they need to “get back to class”.

so, what am i asking from you, tumblr? SPREAD THIS LIKE WILDFIRE. you wanna know whats wrong with the american school system? its not the pressure, or the grades, or the college. its refusing to acknowledge that kids are human beings, too, with minds and emotions of their own in the first place.

so please, please, please signal boost. tell everyone you know what happened. its making big news in the area, but thats about it. however, this happens everywhere, all the time, and im about sick of it. people need to know, and this is a giant community.

spread this for mike doss, the other unnamed student, and every other child who has committed suicide and gotten no acknowledgement because the schools “dont want to glorify suicide”. its time to do something about it.

some other articles on the sit-in:

http://www.lakecentralnews.com/news/2014/04/02/student-protest-leads-to-grief-forum-possible-memorial-service/#prettyPhoto

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local/indiana&id=9490598

http://posttrib.suntimes.com/26612911-537/sit-in-over-ex-students-suicide-called-disruption.html

Remind me to never read youtube comments again, they just make me angry

are you fucking kidding me?!?! this has me pissed beyond anything ive ever been pissed at before!!!!!!!! this principal is a complete moron!!!!!

-Wedway

The sad thing is, if Daily Caller decided to cover this, the people there would probably be defending the principal over the students. That’s how hypocritical they are. They are so usually so quick to condemn public schools (and blame it on our “progressive” society) - until cases of students standing up for their rights come up. Then, suddenly, it’s all the kids’ fault (and, again, it’s our “progressive” society that’s to blame).

Seriously, as much as they hate public schools, they hate children who stand up for their rights even more. Unless, of course, it’s a case of a homophobic/transphobic bully standing up for their “right” to bully LGBTIQA people.

http://undercoverrevolutionary.tumblr.com/post/82480071643/adultprivilege-next-time-someone-uses-youre

undercoverrevolutionary:

adultprivilege:

Next time someone uses “you’re young and your brain hasn’t fully developed yet” as an excuse to ignore me, I’m going to say “well science says that the brain deteriorates as we age and you’re older than I am.”

I guess that could be considered fighting fire with fire and I’ll probably never have to use it, but I thought it was clever.

That is ableist though (from both directions). Brain “deterioration” or level of intellectual function shouldn’t be used as a reason to ignore people anymore than youth should be used as a reason to ignore people.

We need be keeping this in mind, when we discuss this sort of stuff.

feministrocker:

heartofacrow:

lornrocks:

jesuotaku:

rivirambles:

amischiefofmice:

PRAISE BE

Wendy’s is doing the same thing.
Will wonders never cease.

Reblogging this because it keeps showing up on my dash and I keep not-quite raining on the parade, but it seems like everyone thinks this means something different than it does, so I guess I’ll rain on it a little bit.I’m afraid this motion has nothing to do with conquering the gender binary or whatever Tumblr is really happy about to be reblogging it so heavily. It’s not about making little children feel like they can get whichever toy they prefer. It’d be nice if it was, but I’d be shocked if that was the case.No, the girl toy here is a My Little Pony. Which means that the *real* reason for this notice is that a bunch of bronies, as there are bajillions of photos and videos of them doing, are coming into fast food restaurants and buying several happy meals. They threw pissy fits when asked if they wanted the “boy or girl” toy, insisting that My Little Pony isn’t for girls or whatever, again, only saying this because of overwhelming evidence that bronies do this shit. Management eventually has enough of it, asks employees to just ask if people want Skylanders or My Little Pony so they won’t have any more disgusted bronies getting mad that their precious fandom is targeted at crappy dumb little girls.
So the short version is: this little paper unfortunately means the exact opposite of what you think it means, socially speaking. It was put up because grown-ass men get all pissy when it’s suggested that they like a thing for girls.
Proof: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2014/04/editorial-how-to-buy-mcdonalds-ponies.html <— this was posted on the net’s biggest brony hive on April 10, 2014. So yeah, this is sadly not about anything else but how awful bronies are, sorry.

Oh, ew.

Grooooooss

How To Be Femmephobic While Liking Traditionally Feminine Things

I don’t want to take away from the fact that it’s being somewhat progressive - and that, hopefully, people will start to apply this to other areas.
But it’s adult privilege and male privilege that some McDonald’s restaurants were compelled to do this because of objection from adult men. They didn’t do it for little girls. They didn’t do it for little boys, either. And they didn’t even do it for adult women. It took a fandom comprised of adult men to make the move.

feministrocker:

heartofacrow:

lornrocks:

jesuotaku:

rivirambles:

amischiefofmice:

PRAISE BE

Wendy’s is doing the same thing.

Will wonders never cease.

Reblogging this because it keeps showing up on my dash and I keep not-quite raining on the parade, but it seems like everyone thinks this means something different than it does, so I guess I’ll rain on it a little bit.

I’m afraid this motion has nothing to do with conquering the gender binary or whatever Tumblr is really happy about to be reblogging it so heavily. It’s not about making little children feel like they can get whichever toy they prefer. It’d be nice if it was, but I’d be shocked if that was the case.

No, the girl toy here is a My Little Pony. Which means that the *real* reason for this notice is that a bunch of bronies, as there are bajillions of photos and videos of them doing, are coming into fast food restaurants and buying several happy meals. They threw pissy fits when asked if they wanted the “boy or girl” toy, insisting that My Little Pony isn’t for girls or whatever, again, only saying this because of overwhelming evidence that bronies do this shit. Management eventually has enough of it, asks employees to just ask if people want Skylanders or My Little Pony so they won’t have any more disgusted bronies getting mad that their precious fandom is targeted at crappy dumb little girls.

So the short version is: this little paper unfortunately means the exact opposite of what you think it means, socially speaking. It was put up because grown-ass men get all pissy when it’s suggested that they like a thing for girls.

Proof: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2014/04/editorial-how-to-buy-mcdonalds-ponies.html <— this was posted on the net’s biggest brony hive on April 10, 2014. So yeah, this is sadly not about anything else but how awful bronies are, sorry.

Oh, ew.

Grooooooss

How To Be Femmephobic While Liking Traditionally Feminine Things

I don’t want to take away from the fact that it’s being somewhat progressive - and that, hopefully, people will start to apply this to other areas.

But it’s adult privilege and male privilege that some McDonald’s restaurants were compelled to do this because of objection from adult men. They didn’t do it for little girls. They didn’t do it for little boys, either. And they didn’t even do it for adult women. It took a fandom comprised of adult men to make the move.

(Source: scarfetsu)

theconcealedweapon:

It’s easy to call yourself respectful when you get to decide what it means to be respectful and who deserves respect.
It’s easy to call yourself respectful when you can use your privilege and your social skills to disrespect people in a socially acceptable way.
It’s easy to call yourself respectful when your disrespect goes unnoticed because society considers the people you disrespect to be subhuman, while society considers people like you to be deserving of unconditional respect.
It’s easy to call yourself respectful when the people you disrespect are expected to never be angry and to always use the most polite tone, or else they’re the ones considered disrespectful and deserving of your disrespect.
It’s easy to call yourself respectful when you’re not considered disrespectful just for defending yourself, while other people are.
It’s easy to call yourself respectful when anyone who disagrees with you is afraid of being punished or being outcasted.
It’s easy to call yourself respectful and simply not be, just like Nice Guy Syndrome. Disrespectful people rarely identify themselves. 
If someone who was spanked called you a child abuser for supporting spanking, you’d most likely believe that they’re the most disrespectful person in the world, which completely disproves your argument that spanking causes people to be respectful.

theconcealedweapon:

It’s easy to call yourself respectful when you get to decide what it means to be respectful and who deserves respect.

It’s easy to call yourself respectful when you can use your privilege and your social skills to disrespect people in a socially acceptable way.

It’s easy to call yourself respectful when your disrespect goes unnoticed because society considers the people you disrespect to be subhuman, while society considers people like you to be deserving of unconditional respect.

It’s easy to call yourself respectful when the people you disrespect are expected to never be angry and to always use the most polite tone, or else they’re the ones considered disrespectful and deserving of your disrespect.

It’s easy to call yourself respectful when you’re not considered disrespectful just for defending yourself, while other people are.

It’s easy to call yourself respectful when anyone who disagrees with you is afraid of being punished or being outcasted.

It’s easy to call yourself respectful and simply not be, just like Nice Guy Syndrome. Disrespectful people rarely identify themselves. 

If someone who was spanked called you a child abuser for supporting spanking, you’d most likely believe that they’re the most disrespectful person in the world, which completely disproves your argument that spanking causes people to be respectful.

"It’s not fair. Parents can’t spank their children anymore without going to jail for it."

- parents who spank and have never been in jail for it, and still can’t see the flaw in their logic

The reason “It Gets Better” caught on with politicians and celebrities is because it’s great PR and it requires absolutely NOTHING from them in the way of real action.

someone on datalounge who I cannot quite disagree with (via aliapenny)

I just need that entire comment on my blog:

It’s just a bullshit PR campaign, nothing more. Telling kids to put up with bullying until they leave school is not constructive advice. It’s cruel. School boards, school administrators, teachers, etc., need to have zero tolerance policy for bullying. It’s not uncommon for teachers to bully unpopular kids themselves. That’s where the changes need to be made. But that requires action, and it requires standing up to conservatives who fight anti-bullying campaigns tooth and nail (often claiming that bullying gay people is a christian right). The reason “It Gets Better” caught on with politicians and celebrities is because it’s great PR and it requires absolutely NOTHING from them in the way of real action.

It’s cruelty to tell a kid to tolerate bullying. And to whom is this campaign even directed? The fat gay kids that Savage makes fun of himself? It’s a campaign aimed at good looking white boys with great bodies and upper middle class families. Yes, THEY will do better once they start hitting the gay bars. But for most average looking kids from working class families, they will find a gay community that’s often very much like High School, with cliques and teasing and rejection. Gay kids need to get support from society, and the kids that need that most are the kids that Savage himself would mock and demonize; kids of color, working class and poor kids, fat kids, kids with acne, and kids who are otherwise marginalized in society AND in our community.

Even when you look at the videos on YouTube, you see politicians who’ve come out against marriage equality, sports teams that would never accept a gay person in their ranks, and celebrities who just want some good press. The gay kids who participate are often great looking white boys, who you know will be accepted in the gay community, and are already leading charmed lives. It’s a campaign for the people Savage likes…sexy white male teenagers with athletic bodies who will be greeted with open arms.

I’ll take the campaign seriously when Savage speaks out on behalf of marginalized gay kids, and criticizes the gay community for iots racism and other prejudices. But he’s the biggest bigot and bully of the bunch, and that’s been proven from his many years as a “columnist.” I often couldn’t believe how conservative, prejudiced, and intolerant he was in those columns.”

(via davyjonesing)

Also trans people. 

Dan Savage doesn’t care about the T, and he’s been actively, grossly cissexist on many distinct occasions. 

(via misterstibbons)

Not to mention asexuals, women, lower-class people, etc.
Let’s face it kids, Dan Savage is the most hypocritical douchebag in the queer rights movement.

But yes I agree with everything that has been posted above. 

(via daelhorhota)

don’t forget that he thinks bisexuals in general need to “make up their mind” and that male bisexuals are essentially unicorns

(via freakingdork)

I once had an extended argument over when he was glitter-bombed because he’s a huge hypocritical transphobe. You can’t claim to be a trans* ally and then hurl transphobic slurs at your enemies. There’s no complicit-by-ignorance-and-stupidity argument to be made there - that’s just straight up transphobia. He is not an ‘activist.’ He is making a great living by essentially capitalizing on the intersection of his hegemonic identities and a burgeoning pinkwashed economy.

(via trungles)

liking all the commentary here, and yeah that’s always bugged me about the “it gets better” campaign; it should be made better for kids NOW, not just waiting for them to get older and for their life to stop sucking

(via pentapod-monster)

savage doesnt give a shit about #rape victims either oohh tss….

(via peppersongg)

I think we all agree that dan savage is a stinky, puckered asshole.

(via ecseas13)

"It gets better" is ageist, because it’s based on the belief that if people go through hell and seriously consider suicide when they’re young but their life is better when they’re adults, then there’s no problem. And that’s assuming that it actually does get better, which it often doesn’t, especially for LGBT+ people who are also oppressed in other ways.

http://feministrocker.tumblr.com/post/82252384644/mushroomkisser-its-important-to-talk-about-how

feministrocker:

mushroomkisser:

It’s important to talk about how vaccines don’t cause autism, but can we please also talk about how much people must hate autism if they’d rather expose their child to polio, measles and chickenpox than autism?

That’s a very excellent point. I think that’s a sure sign of extreme neurotypicalism. It also intersects with adultism, since it shows how little some people care about the welfare of children. Essentially, they’re saying that they’d rather have children die than be autistic!

ANTI-VAXXERS CAN ALL GO FUCK THEMSELVES WITH A PRICKLY CACTUS!!

http://anti-sjw-but-not-anti-sj.tumblr.com/post/81949012251/killbenedictcumberbatch-the-black-kids-are-so

anti-sjw-but-not-anti-sj:

killbenedictcumberbatch:

The black kids are so well behaved compared to the white ones literally every temper tantrum ive seen working here has been a white kid

That’s because black people are awesomely tough imma raise my kids like them because-

White kid: *screams over not getting toys*
White parent: please honey dont cry ill get you the toy you’re embarrassing yourself sweetie

Versus

Black kid: *screams over not getting toys*
Black parent: oh you wanna scream? If you wanna keep being like that then I swear to the lord I will beat your ass do you understand me?
Black kid: *shuts the hell up*

So
Yea

Um, has it ever occurred to you that kids who are brought up on gentle parenting are actually less likely to act out than children who are brought up on strict or neglective parenting?

gentle parenting =/= spoiling the child

How to tell the difference? Consider how the parents treat those who are not their children?

There’s a good chance that black kids are better behaved. But it’s not because of spanking. Black people have to be on their best behavior to prevent people thinking that they’re thugs and to prevent rules being selectively enforced against them, while white people are allowed to act as entitled as they want.

- Concealed Weapon

rabbitfishtv asked
You wrote: “Lowering the age of consent will only further enable adult sexual predators.” Note that America has a higher age of consent than most countries in the developed world, so who respects youth autonomy more? Attempting to protect youth from predators by criminalizing sexuality hurts more youth than it helps. It's like "protecting" them by making condoms and sex education unavailable. Unhealthy sexuality, like that of predators, is partly a product of anti-sex attitudes.

The age of consent varies by state in the US, so I’m not sure how you came to the conclusion that America has a higher age of consent.

Now I can’t respond with the full context of that quote because I’m not the mod who wrote it, but I can explain to you my position on the age of consent. The AoC to me is a position of moral sketchiness. Of course it has its fair share of flaws (such as some cases where adults wield it on personal whim against young people to criminalize their sexual activities) and of course I’m against it being used in that way and the law shouldn’t be structured in a way that allows for that to happen, and it’s certainly not the ideal situation, either (the ideal situation would be a society where young people can’t be legally and socially coerced into doing what adults want them to do).

But the thing about the AoC and the reason that I consider it of lower tier on the scale of issues young people face is because the AoC doesn’t exist to punish young people, it exists to punish adults. If an adult has sex with a young person below the age of consent, it is not the young person who gets arrested (sure they might be forced to go to some therapy sessions or something which is stupid in its own right but not as much of an issue), it is the adult who gets arrested. So what makes AoC different from other youth rights issues is that it exists to protect young people from adults, unlike most other issues such as the voting age, drinking age, curfews, etc. which claim to exist under the guise of “protecting” young people from themselves or “protecting” adults from young people.

So is the AoC perfect? No, not really. But does it serve a purpose in a society which makes young people extremely vulnerable to being victimized by adults? I say yes. So to claim that it’s like taking condoms and sex education away is not a rational comparison. In conclusion, I think lowering the AoC would do more to benefit adults than it would to benefit young people. Perhaps when most other power structures against young people start being dismantled, maybe then we can take another look at the AoC. But to be honest I see it as being one of the last issues to go.

(On a side note, I find it strange that we almost always end up with at least a few messages in our inbox whenever any mod on here mentions the AoC. But why is that the issue that gets people rustled up? Where are all these people when we’re here talking about other issues that young people face? It just comes off as weird to me that THAT’S the issue which seems to be so many people’s priority.)

-Wedway